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Who puts regular medication into their ponds and why
« on: March 04, 2010, 06:00:02 AM »

Lets try another subject.

Who puts medication into their ponds. When, how often, how much and why.
( including salt )
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2010, 03:40:31 PM »

Good question Mary. My view is, if it,s not broke why try to fix it.
I have seen Koi keepers dose there ponds with massive amounts of chemicals just because it,s
that time of the month. Effective use of medication is based on correct diagnosis of the illness and I think
there is a lot of guesswork by many in treating ill fish. Shot gun approach and incorrect dosing contributes to the development of resistant bacteria then things get real difficult.
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Re: Who puts regular medication into their ponds and why
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2010, 05:07:12 PM »

Yes it is a good question Mary and I agree with Cranky if you dont need it dont use it.
We seem to have been lucky that our koi enjoy good health, but being in the windblown country near waterways and with birds and ducks using the pond as their personal ablutions block we occasionally
have problems with creepy crawlies.

We use neguvon when required probably twice a year and 2.5ml per 1000l as prescribed.we use the liquid product premixed from the KSA and have never had any problems,we also do the follow up 12 days later.

on the subject I did read about a japanese breeder who inheritd a koi farm from his father and decided to medicate the ponds forgetting a different medication had been used shortly before.The lethal combination wiped out the entire stock.Took years for them to get going again.Cant remember the breeders name but he breeds scaled Midorigoi as one of his lines today.so it is not just us amateurs that make mistakes!


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Re: Who puts regular medication into their ponds and why
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2010, 10:56:31 PM »

If you need to add medications or other chemicals on a regular or even semi-regular basis it is an indication that something is not quite right with the pond and filter. The addition of chemicals likely to be masking some sort of underlying cause that needs to be addressed. Most likely the issue causing the problem is very easy to fix. Most of the problems in the hobby stem from too much ammonia in the pond. It is very easy to eliminate ammonia & we have a good mob here who are eager to jump in and help in some way or other.

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Re: Who puts regular medication into their ponds and why
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2010, 02:49:48 AM »

Hi All

I have only ever used salt , that's it , and although there are many arguments about using it , that is all i will ever use , i agree with BB if there is an underlying cause it must be addressed not masked by the use of chemicals that's just my two bobs worth  clapping of hands
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Re: Who puts regular medication into their ponds and why
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2010, 05:11:01 AM »

Hi guys,

Best medication I have found is water H2O I use it all the time give your fish the best you can.
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Re: Who puts regular medication into their ponds and why
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2010, 09:29:39 PM »

Perhaps I have been fortunate because in 18 years of keeping koi I've never needed to medicate other than a .3% salt treatment (touch wood). ...And in that time I've had my fair share of overstocked and poorly filtered ponds  Embarrassed
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Re: Who puts regular medication into their ponds and why
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2010, 03:51:16 PM »

While on the subject of Koi medication I came across a product called DIMILIN(diflubenzuron).
It's used to treat anchor worm, fish lice and flukes.It sounds very safe and is effective in a wide temperature range.
Has anyone used this treatment.
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Re: Who puts regular medication into their ponds and why
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2010, 07:31:29 PM »

Years ago we use to use it. The last time I heard about it, it was banned in Australia.

Also years ago when it was used, it also killed plenty of Koi. It was only safe in the right hands.
Give it to somebody that THINKS he has X amount of water in his pond, or THINKS he knows whats wrong with his Koi, then it's a drug that will kill their Koi in a flash, as they most often THOUGHT wrong.

Use it only if you KNOW.  Believe me cranky even some experienced Koi keepers still only THINK. The moral is never THINK always KNOW, before using any medication.

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